Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

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Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Pondy » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:23 am

Hello. I think I have found Arrhenia lobata in the marginal marsh of the Manchester Bolton & Bury Canal. The marsh has plenty of mosses inc 4 Sphagnum species. Adam Lucas on one of the Facebook pages agrees with me. But NBN Atlas has no NW England records, which is probably under-recording. What does the team think please?

2 photos above n below. Climbing Soft Rush.

What is the best way to add fungi records please? I added this to iRecord.
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Re: Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Chris Yeates » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:42 pm

Hello and welcome to the forum
Nice find. NBN Atlas is not the best indicator of fungus distribution (not its fault). I would suggest as a first stop the old Fungal Records Database at http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org ... /FRDBI.asp but it seems to be down at the moment.

The fungus should certainly be considered uncommon - I have only 13 records on the Yorkshire files - and they go back to the end of the 18th Century!
Extracted pages from 1800-1815-FungusesAboutHalifaxv3+Appendix-1.jpg
Extracted pages from 1800-1815-FungusesAboutHalifaxv3+Appendix-2.jpg
These pages relating to this fungus are from an appendix to James Bolton's "An History of Fungusses growing about Halifax" see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bolton. The names have changed a bit . . .

With regard to records I'm sure Lancashire Lad will be able to advise. You could contact the North West Fungus Group (indeed join it -£7.50 looks a bargain ;) ) https://northwestfungusgroup.com/membership/
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Re: Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Lancashire Lad » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:53 pm

HI, and welcome to UK Fungi.

If you might be considering joining the North West Fungus Group, their website, with membership details can be found here: - https://northwestfungusgroup.com/

They are a genial group with members of all levels - from beginners to those with several decades of mycological experience.
The group normally organises a good number of member forays throughout the year, microscope workshops, etc. (albeit currently curtailed due to Covid restrictions), and, as Chris mentioned above, the annual membership fee is just £7.50 - bargain!!!

I will send you a PM with name and contact details for the group's recorder. (Check your "Private messages" at top of page).

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Re: Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Pondy » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:47 pm

Mike and Chris. I am not sure how replying works on this forum. So thank you for your time. I will follow up the links and discuss with my placement student.

Best wishes,

Dave

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Re: Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Lancashire Lad » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:51 am

Chris Yeates wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:42 pm . . . . I would suggest as a first stop the old Fungal Records Database at http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org ... /FRDBI.asp but it seems to be down at the moment. . . . .
Chris,

I have two slightly different URL addresses for the old FRDBI - (see final three letters of the urls), both of which I've just tried, and both of which (for basic record searches) are currently working.

After clicking on the link, the first URL below takes an inordinate amount of time before anything on the homepage appears / loads - but it does eventually open: -

http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org ... /FRDBI.asp

This second URL opens the homepage more or less immediately; -

http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org ... /FRDBI.htm


Dave,
I've sent you a second PM - I gave you some incorrect info in the first one.

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Re: Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Pondy » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:04 pm

Thanks Mike. The link I had first did work for me and I checked our VCs west of Pennines with it. I will check out your revised message.
However I have now to report this:

"To me, this is not Arrhenia lobata, which has veins rather than these distinct gills. More likely Arrenia acerosa.

Good find all the same.

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John Watt"

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Re: Arrhenia lobata in Greater Manchester?

Post by Chris Yeates » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:48 pm

Thanks Mike
Link now changed on my Firefox bookmarks toolbar . . . .
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