Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

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Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Bob Hazell » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:51 pm

These photographs were taken at Draycote Water near Rugby, Warwickshire earlier today. I was photographing what I assume is Daedaleopsis confragosa on a fallen branch - possibly Willow. In close proximity I noticed what appears to be the early stages of fungal growth amongst lichen on the branch. I am completely stabbing in the dark but wondered if this was a resupinate such as Peniophora quercina.
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Chris Yeates » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:47 pm

The bottom one - although one cannot see enough of the underside to be certain - looks to me like Daedalea quercina. As for the smaller brackets - very young Chondrostereum purpureum?
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Bob Hazell » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Hello Chris,
Thanks for your response and for correcting me regarding the Daedalea quercina - I certainly didn't give the pores enough attention! I will keep an eye on the other fungus and watch it develop. If Chondrostereum purpureum starts to look unlikely no doubt I'll be back in touch seeking more help. Thanks again.

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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by eltio » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:31 pm

Am I missing something? I can't see any other bracket fungi, only what looks like a Peltigera species.

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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Chris Johnson » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:01 am

I agree with eltio, the first three are Peltigera where the thallus has curled showing the rhizines.

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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Bob Hazell » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:45 am

Hello Chris & Eltio,
Thanks for your further thoughts. A Peltigera sp certainly does appear to be the correct identification and given the surrounding lichen something that I ought to have recognised in the field.
Thank you for your help.
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Chris Yeates » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:32 pm

I'm not at all convinced by the Peltigera theory. The habitat seems unlikely and those are totally unlike any rhizines I have ever seen. Those are hairs (in the mycological sense), far too thin and separated to be rhizines - this is what I would expect for the latter: https://www.flickr.com/photos/treebeard/24679852027
It would be useful to examine a bit . . .
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Bob Hazell » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:22 pm

Hi Chris,
I took a further photograph yesterday monitoring the progress of growth. I'm not sure it shows anything new but it is a larger photo allowing "closer" examination. I'm not sure that I have sufficient knowledge to gain much from further examination other than if there is any simple observation that may be helpful.
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Chris Yeates » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:38 pm

Thanks for going to that trouble, Bob. I'm happy that it is probably isn't my first suggestion, and am now seriously wondering about Auricularia mesenterica, young of course. If it is it should look more typical in a month or so . . . But it doesn't say Peltigera to me at all.
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Bob Hazell » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:47 pm

Thanks Chris - I'll continue to monitor its development.
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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by mollisia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:01 pm

Hello,

I'd stick to dried out Chondrostereum purpureum.
For Auricularia mesenterica the fruitbodies are too thin i my opinion, and usually they grow larger when they are that old that they make "caps" and they are most often on naked wood rather than on lichen colonized bark.

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Re: Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

Post by Bob Hazell » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:09 pm

Hello Andreas,
Thanks for your thoughts. As I said to Chris I'll continue to monitor the fungus. If there are any significant changes I'll post further photographs.
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